What can publishing production and editorial functions learn from how software developers work? Software engineers work all day with text, and often collaborate in ways that require intuitive yet powerful methods of collaboration and version control -- all traits they share in common with many aspects of the traditional publishing content workflow. DigiPub host Denis Saulnier gets insights on this from Andrew Savikas, former CEO of Safari and former O’Reilly executive who ran the Tools of Change for Publishing conferences. Andrew gives an overview of how these tools work and the value they bring to the publishing process, and also gives specific tool recommendations for publishing professionals interested in experimenting with them. In the post-interview panel discussion, Denis is joined by Sue Brown of Macmillan Learning, Jack Cashman of the Harvard Alumni Association, and Laura Linnaeus of Macmillan Learning, who engage in a brief panel reaction to the interview, including how it resonated with their various endeavors in publishing.